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Kartra Reviews: 3.9/5 — Good for the Price
Kartra is a comprehensive platform that helps businesses expand and scale through simple features and toolsets that help automate key functions. The platform features a drag-and-drop builder with a wide selection of page templates to create professional sites without coding, and you can use Kartra’s robust sales funnel builder to automate your funnels. Member management is easier and the platform allows you design membership sites, host online courses, and run sales as well as marketing campaigns.
| Capabilities |
API
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| Segment |
Small Business
Mid Market
Enterprise
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| Deployment | Cloud / SaaS / Web-Based |
| Training | Documentation |
| Languages | English |
Kartra Pros and Cons
- Sales funnel builder and automation
- Add in-video CTAs and opt-in forms
- Email automation based on customer behaviour, email templates, and split testing
- Organise your client database in lists and custom tags
- No current white-label options
- Bit of a learning curve
Kartra’s Essentials plan costs $59 a month and charges “5% transaction fees”. Every plan above it charges 0%. So the cheapest plan is only the cheapest until you start selling: at roughly $940 a month in sales on annual billing, that 5% exceeds the price gap to Starter, and Essentials becomes the more expensive option despite costing half as much on the sticker. The other thing worth checking is the top of the range — Professional costs 127% more than Growth for 100% more contacts, so it is the worse deal per contact.
- What it is: An all-in-one marketing automation platform — pages, funnels, email, memberships, checkouts and affiliates.
- Best for: Established businesses on Growth, where webinars, automations and affiliates begin.
- Pricing: $52–$429 a month billed annually; $59–$549 monthly. Verified July 2026.
- The honest catch: Essentials allows 5 pages, 1 product and one course.
What Is Kartra?
Kartra bundles the tools an online business would otherwise buy separately: a drag-and-drop page and funnel builder, email and SMS marketing, checkouts, membership and course hosting, calendars, helpdesk, affiliate management and analytics. The pitch is consolidation — one subscription and one set of data instead of five tools stitched together. It cites 60,000-plus customers.
Plans are metered primarily by contacts, with a 30-day money-back guarantee and cancellation any time.
How Kartra Works
- Four plans, monthly or annual.
- Contacts are the main meter.
- Essentials charges 5% of sales.
- Annual saves 12–22%, rising with tier.
- Kartra AI is metered — 30 to 200 uses.
- 30-day money-back guarantee.
Kartra Pricing
Captured from Kartra’s pricing page in July 2026 in US dollars, reading both billing toggles and all four plan cards.
| Plan | Monthly | Annual | Saving | Contacts | Transaction fee | Domains |
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| Essentials | $59 | $52 | 11.9% | 500 | 5% | 1 |
| Starter (best value) | $119 | $99 | 16.8% | 2,500 | 0% | 1 |
| Growth | $229 | $189 | 17.5% | 12,500 | 0% | 3 |
| Professional | $549 | $429 | 21.9% | 25,000 | 0% | 5 |
| Derived | Essentials | Starter | Growth | Professional |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cost per 1,000 contacts | $104 | $40 | $15 | $17 |
| Emails | 10,000/mo | Unlimited | Unlimited | Unlimited |
| Pages | 5 | Unlimited | Unlimited | Unlimited |
| Products | 1 | — | — | — |
| Team members | — | 5 | 10 | — |
| Kartra AI uses | 30 | 100 | 200 | — |
What actually decides your cost:
- The 5% transaction fee makes Essentials the expensive plan for anyone selling. Essentials is the only tier charging it; Starter, Growth and Professional all show “0% transaction fees”. On annual billing the gap between Essentials and Starter is $47 a month, and 5% of sales reaches $47 at $940 a month in revenue. On monthly billing the gap is $60, so the crossover is $1,200. Below that, Essentials is genuinely cheaper. Above it, you are paying more for the plan with 500 contacts, 5 pages and one product. Any business with real sales should treat Starter as the true entry price.
- Professional costs more per contact than Growth, which is the wrong way round. Per 1,000 contacts a month the four plans work out at $104, $40, $15 and $17. So the curve improves steeply and then turns back on itself at the top: Professional is 127% more expensive than Growth for 100% more contacts, making it about 14% worse per contact. What it actually adds over Growth is narrow — real-time funnel analytics, helpdesk live chat, two extra domains and the contact headroom. Unless you need those specifically, Growth is the better buy and you can add contacts elsewhere.
- Essentials is a launch tier, not a working one. Beyond the transaction fee it allows 5 pages, 1 product, 1 membership or course, 10,000 emails a month and 500 contacts, with 30 Kartra AI uses. Starter removes nearly all of that — unlimited pages, unlimited email and SMS, 2,500 contacts, 5 team members. If you are building a business rather than testing an idea, the useful range starts at $99.
- The features Kartra is bought for begin at Growth. Webinars, automations, affiliate management, surveys and quizzes, funnel simulation and helpdesk support are all listed as Growth additions — not on Essentials or Starter. Since consolidating those tools is the entire argument for an all-in-one platform, Growth at $189 a month annually is where Kartra actually delivers its pitch. Buyers comparing Kartra’s $59 headline against a competitor’s mid-tier are not comparing like with like.
- The annual discount grows with the plan, which is unusual and worth using. Savings run 11.9%, 16.8%, 17.5% and 21.9% from Essentials to Professional, and the advertised “Save up to 22%” matches Professional exactly. Most vendors either apply a flat percentage or, as with some reviewed here, a flat cash amount that makes the discount worse on expensive plans. Kartra’s runs the helpful direction — so the commitment is most worth making precisely where the bill is largest.
- Kartra AI is metered in “uses”, and the allowance is small at the bottom. 30 uses on Essentials, 100 on Starter, 200 on Growth. The page does not define what constitutes a use or what happens when you exhaust them, so if AI generation is central to your workflow, establish both before choosing a tier.
- Custom domains are limited on every plan. 1 on Essentials and Starter, 3 on Growth, 5 on Professional. For an agency or anyone running several brands, that is a real constraint — and it is one of the few things that genuinely pushes you to Professional.
- Contacts, not emails, are what you outgrow. Email and SMS are unlimited from Starter upward, so the only volume meter that matters is the contact count: 500, 2,500, 12,500, 25,000. Since contacts accumulate and rarely shrink, model twelve months of list growth rather than today’s number.
Who Should Use Kartra
- Established businesses consolidating tools. The clearest case — Growth at $189 a month annually replaces several subscriptions.
- Course and membership sellers. Hosting, checkouts and drip content in one platform.
- Anyone running an affiliate programme. Affiliate management is included from Growth.
- Solopreneurs testing an idea. Essentials at $52, provided sales stay under about $940 a month.
It fits poorly for sellers on Essentials with real revenue, where 5% overtakes the saving; for agencies needing many domains below Professional; and for buyers wanting webinars or automations at the entry price.
Honest Pros and Cons
Strengths
- 0% transaction fees on every plan above Essentials.
- Unlimited email and SMS from Starter upward.
- Annual discount improves with tier, reaching 21.9%.
- “Save up to 22%” is accurate, matching Professional.
- Genuinely all-in-one — funnels, memberships, helpdesk, affiliates.
- 30-day money-back guarantee, cancel any time.
Limitations
- Essentials charges 5% of your sales.
- Professional costs more per contact than Growth.
- Essentials allows 5 pages and 1 product.
- Webinars, automations and affiliates need Growth.
- 1 custom domain on the two cheapest plans.
- Kartra AI uses are undefined and capped.
Kartra Alternatives and How It Compares
- ClickFunnels is the closest funnel-first competitor at similar pricing.
- Kajabi targets course creators specifically, with stronger content tooling.
- ThriveCart sells checkout and cart functionality as a one-off purchase.
- Builderall bundles a comparable toolset at a lower entry price.
- Systeme.io offers an all-in-one platform with a genuinely free tier.
For a wider survey, browse our marketing automation directory.
The Verdict
Kartra’s argument is consolidation, and on the right plan it is a reasonable one: funnels, pages, email and SMS, checkouts, memberships and courses, calendars, a helpdesk, affiliate management and analytics in a single subscription with one shared set of customer data. Where it delivers that promise is Growth, at $189 a month billed annually — and that is also, by some distance, the best value on the page at $15 per thousand contacts a month.
The most important thing to understand before buying is that the $59 headline is not really $59. Essentials is the only plan carrying “5% transaction fees” — every tier above it is explicitly 0% — and that fee overtakes the price difference quickly. On annual billing Essentials saves $47 a month against Starter, and 5% of sales reaches $47 at about $940 a month in revenue; on monthly billing the crossover is $1,200. So for anyone actually selling, Essentials is the more expensive plan while also capping you at 500 contacts, 5 pages, one product and 10,000 emails a month. It works as a place to test an idea. It does not work as a place to run a business.
At the other end, the pricing curve does something I have seen a few times in this series and it is worth flagging: it reverses at the top. Growth costs $189 for 12,500 contacts and Professional costs $429 for 25,000 — 127% more money for 100% more contacts, or about 14% worse per contact. What Professional actually adds beyond the headroom is real-time funnel analytics, helpdesk live chat and two extra custom domains. Those are narrow reasons to pay $240 more a month, so unless the domain limit or live chat is a hard requirement, Growth is the plan to buy and stay on.
Two smaller points, one in Kartra’s favour. The annual discount rises with the plan — 11.9%, 16.8%, 17.5% and 21.9% — so the advertised “Save up to 22%” is accurate and describes Professional. That is the helpful direction, and the opposite of the flat-cash discounts elsewhere in this series that quietly punish larger plans. Less helpfully, Kartra AI is metered in “uses” (30, 100, 200 by tier) with no published definition of a use and no stated overage, and custom domains are capped at one on both cheaper plans. Take the 30-day money-back guarantee, build a real funnel on it, and budget from Growth rather than the headline.
FAQ
How much does Kartra cost?
In US dollars, captured July 2026: Essentials $59 a month or $52 billed annually, Starter $119 or $99, Growth $229 or $189, and Professional $549 or $429. Contact limits are 500, 2,500, 12,500 and 25,000 respectively. A 30-day money-back guarantee applies and you can cancel at any time.
Does Kartra charge transaction fees?
Only on the entry plan. Essentials charges 5% transaction fees; Starter, Growth and Professional all state 0%. That matters more than the sticker price for anyone selling: the annual gap between Essentials and Starter is $47 a month, which 5% of sales reaches at about $940 a month in revenue. Above that, Essentials costs more than Starter despite being half the advertised price.
Which Kartra plan is best value?
Growth, at $189 a month billed annually. It works out at $15 per thousand contacts a month, against $40 on Starter and $104 on Essentials — and, unusually, $17 on Professional, which is dearer per contact because it costs 127% more than Growth for only 100% more contacts. Growth is also where webinars, automations, affiliates and surveys begin.
What does Kartra’s Essentials plan actually include?
500 contacts, 10,000 emails a month, 5 pages, 1 product, 1 membership or course, one custom domain and 30 Kartra AI uses — plus a 5% transaction fee on sales. Starter removes most of those caps for $99 a month annually: unlimited pages, unlimited email and SMS, 2,500 contacts, 5 team members and 0% transaction fees.
Is Kartra’s annual discount worth taking?
Generally yes, and increasingly so on larger plans. Savings run 11.9% on Essentials, 16.8% on Starter, 17.5% on Growth and 21.9% on Professional — so the advertised “Save up to 22%” is accurate and refers to the top tier. Unlike vendors that apply a flat cash reduction, Kartra’s discount grows with the bill, making the commitment most worthwhile where you are spending most.
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The payment management system. Nobody talks about it, but it is by far the best feature Kartra has. You can manage payments, cancelations, refunds, recurrent payments (including changing dates) all inside Kartra, not need to go to any of your payment processors.
I don't like that Kartra needs to use re-directions when you use custom domains. This slows down page load speed.
Having all my marketing tools in one place simplifies running operations. Being able to easily charge my clients online for my services is necesary for my business.
- The main benefit of kartra is that it is very easy to intergrate any of your marketing tools into one. - Kartra is very good with memberships, the only tool i use for my clients to host their course videos - A very easy to use and best UI of the sales funnel builder - Analytics overview is bestest i have seen so far in any tool
- The membership login page needs to be customizable - UI/UX needs of the whole tool needs an improvement - Need Improvement in the checkout pages - Need to have a better customer support
- Solving problems for my course creating clients by helping them with memberships,landing pages,payment integrations,email automation and helping them get more and more students by using kartra
The most helpful thing about Kartra is that it allows you to integrate your website, sales, marketing, and communication systems all into one. Not only have I been able to reduce costs but eliminate all these separate systems, I have been able to brand all my sites across all funnels.
My only dislike at the moment is with some of the customizations currently unavailable. I want the ability to customize the login screen for specific content exclusive to members only. However, the default login screen is uncustomizable at the moment. Also, I'd like to see a little more robustness when setting wait states within the Sequence builder for minute increments instead of the default of 1 hour.
Kartra solved the problem of having multiple systems for my marketing, sales, communication, and website to provide a single solution. Additionally, it allows me to have a calendar for appointment setting and scheduling. I also like that I can build a training portal to offer memberships for my training and teaching video products and services. With the addition of Quizzes and Surveys, I can add them to my classes or send them out as lead magnets or reviews. The benefits to my business are simplified processes and offerings all under oneproduct.
With most systems, you send out an email and know who opened it and how many clicks. Kartra's dashboard and the interconnected system will tell me exactly how much money sending that email out made me. Website pages are easy to create and trackable with no additional coding or setup. Full helpdesk to make for happy customers and clients. Membership to train internally and clients. Quizes! CRM that is constantly gathering information FOR ME. I have no idea how ClickFunnels and its poor competitors even begin to compete.
It is not yet prepared to sell software on group deal sites like AppSumo with a limitation of manually creating one coupon code at a time. And they are so overprotective of email quality.... many emails are blacklisted with no way to change that.
Website creation, running my business, making money, building affiliate and sales teams, email broadcasts, video hosting and more
1. Kartra is in my case, the best all in one marketing automation tool. 2. Thier sales funnel builder has proven to be a unicorn. 3. Unlike other sales funnel design tool, it's in tegration in to Wordpress is very easy 4. Kartra has multiple explainer video on how to use it efficiently 5. Has insane analytics and email automation system
1. You have to pay $1 to go on their 14 days free trial
I'm building a highly converting marketing sales funnel for my clients. I saw an increase in 7.9% conversion in the first month of using Kartra
Kartra is a one-stop-shop for all of my marketing and sales campaigns. Not only that, they have a phenomenal affiliate program. I love their customer service, astronaut academy (Kartracademy), their templates and designs, and the functionality of the interface and back office. Everything is clean and works very well. The way the leads are classified and able to be tagged are definitely awesome!
There are some downsides to Kartra, as with any software. One is the functionality of getting to emails and editing them. Within a sequence or automation, you have to click through very tediously to get to the email, open the email, edit the email and save the email. I would also mention some API integrations are not evident, and there are some hindrances in their checkout processes (minimal products). However, they are always working and improving.
I am an affiliate marketer, so I love the aspect of being able to promote a product I love and use every day. I've realized I don't need a lot of third-party integrations (there are some still lacking), but overall, it is a great setup for someone looking to capitalize on their website, landing pages, funnels, and marketing!
The done for you template sequences and funnels from the brilliant Frank Kern...massive time saver, massive conversion booster.
Not much - we're moving off Active Campaign to Kartra because we were so impressed. When they can match Upviral for viral campaigns I'll be in heaven!
email sequencing, running a 5-day challenge, content hosting, including videos...we're running a multi-six figure business that is growing rapidly and still not found the edges of Kartra's capacity...
All-in-one solution for online businesses
Not much to dislike, they have a lot to love though
CRM, Sales pages, Email provider, Leads capture
it deals with everything. since all is done within kartra, no need to use and integrate other platforms
they could redo the scheduling options, its not the best
all my sales funnel and (digital) product delivery
I think I like the 'Done For You' campaigns, and pages best. I love the training videos that go with each and they certainly help me move forward much quicker than if I was trying to work this all out myself from scratch.
I tend to end up with many started but not finished campaigns and that can get confusing
I have a one-stop-shop for my product, marketing followup and sales with much more segmenting, tagging and analytics that I could ever hope to make full use of. AND.... I am able to handle the intricate and complex integration of all the elements easily as the tool stitches it all together seamlessly
Like any platform, it may take a bit to learn everything. Kartra's training is great, and I went through the beginning. Once I started using it, it became so easy because they are consistent in their presentation of functionality across different functional areas. I like Kartra the most because I can tie all my business components together. I used to have 4 different autoresponders, 2 different funnel builders and was going to have to pay to add on a calendar and helpdesk and other functionality that is standard in Kartra.
I have a problem because I cannot export the reports. The reporting is very good but I like to see keep track of things in my spreadsheets and I cannot export the data from my reports to excel or a CSV.
I have great insights into my lists and how they perform. It is easy to filter the right people into my broadcast emails and eliminate those who I want to omit. It brings almost all my online business functions in one place.
Everything is easy to learn and straightforward to use.
Because we use it so much, we get really random problems with it. When we reach out for customer support, the answer is YUP, that's a problem. Also, the billing and recurring payments system is poorly thought out. You don't get notified when someone misses a payment, which seems pretty odd.
I have moved a great deal of my business online because of Kartra. It's allowed me to grow a recurring revenue stream in my business that has solved a lot of business problems.
Kartra has everything you need for your online marketing in one place. While there are other products that do this the beauty of Kartra is that it all works together in a simple and easy to apply system.
Not a huge amount. There's a couple little minor things but they are always evolving the product so these things seem to get fixed.
I can quickly put together products and test them to the market. This is with webpages, email follow ups, online education products and so on. Here's an example, I created this page and the back end within 2 weeks: https://www.my5kdream.com
All the features that work together seamlessly.
I cannot wait for a survey feature to be added so I can gather more information about my clients!
Website creation, product + service sales, webinars, funnels, membership platform.
All of the integrations. I like that it includes my email service provider and my payment processor.
I would like to see a more straightforward and clear training program for using the system.
I am managing my clients better with Kartra. It has helped to have everything in one place.
So many aspects of my business can be addressed through Kartra. It saves me from having to subscribe to many different service providers. I truly love the (almost) All-in-One approach. There are many training videos and the Facebook group is an awesome resource for extra tips and immediate help. I am happy with Kartra, because it allowed me to really upgrade the online presence of my business, and to automate my sales and the communication with my clients. It enhances my ability to have a detailed database of my clients, their purchase activity and browsing behaviors. Once I learned how to utilize the different modules, it became very easy to duplicate existing segments or modify templates. I also appreciate, that Karta continues to work on the integration of even more features.
There are new features added frequently. That is in itself a good thing. But it requires keeping up with the changes. A couple of times it resulted in me having to redo things. So sometimes the many different levels of complexity interfere with each other and create a bit extra work. Also, the initial learning was pretty time consuming.
I use Kartra to create and host my main web-presence, it is my client database and my main communication platform to keep m students/clients in the loop. Kartra enables me to have various membership sites with e-learning modules.
Saving money by consolidating 90% of all features needed to run our online business into one platform, which gives us many benefits, namely less headaches and integrations to manage.
There's definitely a learning curve to use all the design tools and setting up funnels. The process to set everything up is very non-linear.
Email marketing, sales and lead pages, tracking, automations, online courses, support, checkout. Reducing our monthly bill on software is a huge benefit. Speed to getting funnels, courses, and offers to market is a second huge benefit.
BAM- Behavior Adaptive Marketing. It enables you to change and adapt marketing to consumers based on various preferences.
Technical support has only been provided over e-mail, thus taking a little while.
Providing products to consumers as well as conducting e-mail campaigns and analyzing IRR. Great way to have professional and great looking email broadcasts.
I like that its all on e platform to handle email, webpages, product ecom, helpdesk, video hosting and affiliate management and much more
Nothing the platform is amazing and truly awesome product
I am now running my entire business on the platform
Kartra removes the headache of making all the technical things work for a sales funnel. I now save 5-10 of hours a month in technical snafu's and I am actually getting the right work done. Marketing and building programs.
A few little quirks because it's still in Beta but frankly it works better than any NON-BETA products Ive used including Infusionsoft, Ontraport, ActiveCampaign and numerous other responder systems
I build funnels for information products.
I love that cartra allows for such a debt
I love that kartra allows for such a depth and breath of cloud storage and I can easily store anything related to business practices at the touch of a button/upload. It's simple and affordable and useful for marketing automation as well.
Prior to using Kartra we would store a or our important business related materials on a traditional hard drive period of period this allows us to ultimately save time and money by using the cloud storage instead. We also use Kartra to implement marketing tactics to better reach our audience.
I like its a one stop shop for all marketing and CRM and lead generation needs.
I dont like itz not white label or customisable
Email communication, membership site, and CRM.
This software is hands down in one word powerful. The functionality is amazing. You can literally eliminate use of other programs by going with Kartra. The merchant options are great if you have a sales component that you need to incorporate. We are eliminating LeadPages and will eventually remove other software as we see what Kartra can replace.
Some of the functionality is challenging to navigate. We certainly would use a sheet sheet of comparisons with other software so that we can get a jump on knowing what to eliminate going forward.
Internally we are using tomalley different software products to essentially perform the same functions. The goal is to let team evaluate how Kartra holds up for long term which would allow us to streamline our software purchases.
The best thing about KARTRA is it has all the options Like: E-mail marketing Membership platform E-commerce video hosting Its like ready to go TOOL
In the beginning it difficult to learn but once's you have hang of it is the best tool i have ever came across
It has email broadcasts option which really helps.
I love how well it covers the bases and fits together, eliminating the need for all the usual collection of various software solutions (that you end up working hard to get talking to each other and continuing to do so smoothly).
I'd like to see a more mature page builder. But Thrive Architect is peerless in that respect, and I doubt if Kartra will catch up to that level. In fairness, I use Kartra for most things and Thrive Architect for my actual web pages, and that's a great match.
We use Kartra for lead capture, for product setup, shopping cart and payments, and our membership areas. Plus we use it for email campaigns and communicating with our members.
Kartra is an all-in-one marketing platform that offers a range of features and tools for businesses. Some potential pros of Kartra include: - Ease of use: Kartra is designed to be user-friendly and easy to navigate, making it accessible for businesses of all sizes and levels of technical expertise. - Comprehensive feature set: Kartra offers a wide range of marketing tools, including email marketing, landing page builder, membership site builder, and more, which can help businesses streamline their marketing efforts and save time. - Integration with other tools: Kartra integrates with a variety of other tools and platforms, such as payment gateways and webinar software, which can help businesses streamline their workflow and automate certain tasks. - Customer support: Kartra provides access to a team of customer support representatives who are available to help users with any issues or questions they may have.
There are a few potential cons to consider when evaluating Kartra as a marketing platform: - Cost: Kartra is a paid platform, and the cost can be relatively high depending on the features and tools that a business needs. This may not be feasible for businesses with a limited budget. - Limited customization: While Kartra offers a wide range of features and tools, some users may find that the level of customization is limited compared to other platforms.
Following problems have been resolved by Kartra: - Affiliate management: Kartra includes an affiliate management system that allows businesses to easily set up and manage an affiliate program to promote their products or services. -Marketing automation: Kartra includes marketing automation tools that allow businesses to set up automated campaigns and workflows, which can help save time and improve the efficiency of their marketing efforts.
The advantages with kartra is the availability to do everything directly on it no more need of several site or software for our tasks with kartra everything is done on site
the disadvantage that I find in kartra is in their price plan, they should try to review their prices so that more users explore the advantages and potential that offers.
kartra allows me to be more productive on my daily and especially monthly tasks, with all the tools they put at our disposal I am 100% profitable in my business and its boost our online activities.
Contains all aspects needed to run online business. Fairly easy to use. Feature rich.
Some changes take longer because of watered down easy to use interface.
Online sales, email list, CRM
I like being to clone previous broadcasts to send out to subscribers for recurring events. I also like being able to create different types of forms (applications, surveys, sign-ups, etc.) in the app.
I think Kartra can be a bit bulky and there is definitely a learning curve. However, once you learn how to use and set up the features it can be a great business tool.
I use Kartra for one of my clients as a virtual assistant. I schedule broadcasts and newsletters, create forms, update landing pages, and follow up with client membership orders.
I like they guide me to use their platform. It has everything in one, email, funnels, memberships, and so much more. I really like on the side of the platform it tells you the percentage of how far you are to completing your task that you want to do. It also has step by step instructions which are super easy to follow.
Not much but how the email is set up. It doesn't flow as well as other platforms. When editing emails it's a little bit more cumbersome because it has a pop-up that you put your info in if your copy and pasting, which I can't stand.
I turned to Kartra because I just wanted a one-stop-shop and cut out using different platforms which I use to use, click funnels, active campaign and they where great but I like to make my life easy and have everything on one platform plus one payment.
